Thank you for the information. We will look into this and post a comment when we know more about it.
submitted by:Richard
This plaza has gone greatly downhill. Trees have died. Water fountain broken. Very dirty.
submitted by:APOPS
Thanks for your comment. We will look into this. APOPS|MAS
submitted by:Caroline
This plaza seems much less vibrant than it appears in past photos that were posted. There were not many people using the space on a weekday afternoon during lunchtime.
submitted by:Caroline
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submitted by:Caroline
Not much active engagement with the elements of the space.
submitted by:Caroline
This plaza is no longer living up to its fullest potential. It incorporates some pleasant design features that go beyond the bare minimum provided by other privately owned public spaces, yet appears to have deteriorated over time. Past photos illustrate vibrant, active use of the space by a variety of people. During a more recent visit, the space is much less attractive and inviting. The water feature, trees, and lighting seem to be in adequately good shape, but the “movable” furniture is problematic. Many “movable” chairs are still bracketed to the pavement, at times in seemingly arbitrary locations. Several tables are crooked, and the backs of several chairs have been broken. This prevents many passersby from using them.
It seems as though this plaza suffers from a lack of upkeep and enforcement of some of its required amenities.
submitted by:Caroline
This plaza seems much less vibrant than it appears in past photos that were posted. There were not many people using the space on a weekday afternoon during lunchtime.
submitted by:Caroline
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Not much active engagement with the elements of the plaza.
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submitted by:Philip Miatkowski
839 6th Ave is a throughway privately owned public space in Midtown Manhattan between W 29th and W 30th Street just west of 6th Avenue. The space was moderately busy for a Tuesday late afternoon, with 26/48 single-seats occupied with a good mix of groups and singles. Those using the space were guests from the next-door hotel, Midtown businesspeople, shoppers, tourists, and people walking through, and others. The POPS has a water feature that is well maintained and clean with an acceptable amount of fallen Fall foliage in the water. Trees are well taken care of with only one dead out of X. The POPS is clean and litter free. There are different types of seating available including, benches, moveable chairs, immoveable chairs, and granite “blocks.”
Required amenities wise, the POPS surpasses the minimum requirement of litter receptacles and chairs with backs. It also surpasses the tree requirements. But it does only have 16 tables as opposed to the 43 that says is required on this website. Also, unclear if the 2 entry plaques need to be at both entries, but the plaques are only at one entry to the throughway.
submitted by:Philip Miatkowski
Additional photograph
submitted by:Shane S.
Tucked away just off Sixth street this plaza feature a broad vista north and south, which anchors the parallel streets acting, as a girthy pedestrian linkage. Approaching this space from 29th I first saw some grass growing on the jutted roof in the southwest corner, giving a suggestion of some environmental self consciousness; I quickly noticed it was artificial turf. Above the moch verdancy is a massive tv screen at least five meters wide. This narrow scene nearly looks like a deconstructed sports arena. From the faux earthen roof down, it’s structure is cladded with opaque horizontal paneling. In picture I noticed it lights up in some way, which is clever but I question if they light it up on a regular basis.
Up a few steps past some wavy wood slatted seating is a large reflecting pool. Relational to the rest of the space it seems to be the center of attention. It looks like some black marble, I do like the element of water and I see sign restricting me from cool off my feet, it looks quite clean. Straight lines make up the movement of this space, proceeding north from the pool are a series of long and large taupe marble benches. In between is a third distinct straight line, that of row of trees. There are a total of 17 trees in the space and it is wheelchair accessible. The tall office building which surround it have an unrestricted view of the space, but when the trees get larger and more full it might be a good place for cover. But the most access to visibility comes from the hotel which owns the space.
Here is direct quote from their website. “Inspired by the neighborhood, The Chelsea Art district, which is one of the most important and influential art districts in the world, Kimpton Hotel Eventi has evolved itself to become a destination for art lovers itself.”
I suppose there’s no room for sublty in big business. This is not just a hotel but also an gallery of its own collection. Whether Chelsea has sustained a affluent or historic scene for art, it’s involved in a long turbulent history, which is reflexive to the nature of its surrounding and a destination for art is not a neighborhood but a dislocation into tourism. For Kimpton Hotel Eventi to claim that they’ve evolved themselves into a destination is to ignore the larger history and multitudes up people which have struggled and persevered. This square could use historicism to relate the past to its place, but at the moment I see no relationship beyond luxury experiences. Perhaps the ornamental pool could be enlarged.
My interaction in this space was pleasant enough, regardless of feeling watched by people in the hotel restaurant I wouldn’t feel so uncomfortable as to avoid reading for a little while. In my moments on the massive marble bench I thought of Hito Steyerl’s “Guards”. This courtyard was perfect for militarization because of its clean lines of sight and besides one bump out all corners were eliminated. But if security were to be guarding this space, what is it that they’re guarding exactly. Everything seems bolted down. It’s as if there are invisible guards there, and there is a relationship with the hotel that exhausts a need keep something safe.
Is it truly a public pace, or is this POPS another contrived relationship referring to the nature of the space in a legal sense, as an easement, a mere right of way. I believe this courtyard is just an extension of authority, which hints to the hotels own power, it reminds itself of its identity and cherishes it like Narcissus over the reflecting pond.
submitted by:Ben
Most of this plaza was closed earlier today for the “media event” portion of a Dairy Queen promotion that would be giving out free ice cream later in the day. The media portion of the event was scheduled for something like 11-5, and people from Dairy Queen were actively preventing people from entering the space. Is this allowed for a POPS? Was the owner illegally renting it out to DQ for private hours?
submitted by:Jon Johnson
as of 04/29/19 there is an area cordoned off for private outdoor seating for eating and drinking for the hotel restaurant.
submitted by:Michael
This place is filthy. It used to be better maintained. What happened?
Note: The above information is current as of March, 2023
Thursday evenings are best.
The “movable chairs” are not movable, they are bracketed to the floor.
Thank you for the information. We will look into this and post a comment when we know more about it.
This plaza has gone greatly downhill. Trees have died. Water fountain broken. Very dirty.
Thanks for your comment. We will look into this. APOPS|MAS
This plaza seems much less vibrant than it appears in past photos that were posted. There were not many people using the space on a weekday afternoon during lunchtime.
.
Not much active engagement with the elements of the space.
This plaza is no longer living up to its fullest potential. It incorporates some pleasant design features that go beyond the bare minimum provided by other privately owned public spaces, yet appears to have deteriorated over time. Past photos illustrate vibrant, active use of the space by a variety of people. During a more recent visit, the space is much less attractive and inviting. The water feature, trees, and lighting seem to be in adequately good shape, but the “movable” furniture is problematic. Many “movable” chairs are still bracketed to the pavement, at times in seemingly arbitrary locations. Several tables are crooked, and the backs of several chairs have been broken. This prevents many passersby from using them.
It seems as though this plaza suffers from a lack of upkeep and enforcement of some of its required amenities.
This plaza seems much less vibrant than it appears in past photos that were posted. There were not many people using the space on a weekday afternoon during lunchtime.
…
Not much active engagement with the elements of the plaza.
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839 6th Ave is a throughway privately owned public space in Midtown Manhattan between W 29th and W 30th Street just west of 6th Avenue. The space was moderately busy for a Tuesday late afternoon, with 26/48 single-seats occupied with a good mix of groups and singles. Those using the space were guests from the next-door hotel, Midtown businesspeople, shoppers, tourists, and people walking through, and others. The POPS has a water feature that is well maintained and clean with an acceptable amount of fallen Fall foliage in the water. Trees are well taken care of with only one dead out of X. The POPS is clean and litter free. There are different types of seating available including, benches, moveable chairs, immoveable chairs, and granite “blocks.”
Required amenities wise, the POPS surpasses the minimum requirement of litter receptacles and chairs with backs. It also surpasses the tree requirements. But it does only have 16 tables as opposed to the 43 that says is required on this website. Also, unclear if the 2 entry plaques need to be at both entries, but the plaques are only at one entry to the throughway.
Additional photograph
Tucked away just off Sixth street this plaza feature a broad vista north and south, which anchors the parallel streets acting, as a girthy pedestrian linkage. Approaching this space from 29th I first saw some grass growing on the jutted roof in the southwest corner, giving a suggestion of some environmental self consciousness; I quickly noticed it was artificial turf. Above the moch verdancy is a massive tv screen at least five meters wide. This narrow scene nearly looks like a deconstructed sports arena. From the faux earthen roof down, it’s structure is cladded with opaque horizontal paneling. In picture I noticed it lights up in some way, which is clever but I question if they light it up on a regular basis.
Up a few steps past some wavy wood slatted seating is a large reflecting pool. Relational to the rest of the space it seems to be the center of attention. It looks like some black marble, I do like the element of water and I see sign restricting me from cool off my feet, it looks quite clean. Straight lines make up the movement of this space, proceeding north from the pool are a series of long and large taupe marble benches. In between is a third distinct straight line, that of row of trees. There are a total of 17 trees in the space and it is wheelchair accessible. The tall office building which surround it have an unrestricted view of the space, but when the trees get larger and more full it might be a good place for cover. But the most access to visibility comes from the hotel which owns the space.
Here is direct quote from their website. “Inspired by the neighborhood, The Chelsea Art district, which is one of the most important and influential art districts in the world, Kimpton Hotel Eventi has evolved itself to become a destination for art lovers itself.”
I suppose there’s no room for sublty in big business. This is not just a hotel but also an gallery of its own collection. Whether Chelsea has sustained a affluent or historic scene for art, it’s involved in a long turbulent history, which is reflexive to the nature of its surrounding and a destination for art is not a neighborhood but a dislocation into tourism. For Kimpton Hotel Eventi to claim that they’ve evolved themselves into a destination is to ignore the larger history and multitudes up people which have struggled and persevered. This square could use historicism to relate the past to its place, but at the moment I see no relationship beyond luxury experiences. Perhaps the ornamental pool could be enlarged.
My interaction in this space was pleasant enough, regardless of feeling watched by people in the hotel restaurant I wouldn’t feel so uncomfortable as to avoid reading for a little while. In my moments on the massive marble bench I thought of Hito Steyerl’s “Guards”. This courtyard was perfect for militarization because of its clean lines of sight and besides one bump out all corners were eliminated. But if security were to be guarding this space, what is it that they’re guarding exactly. Everything seems bolted down. It’s as if there are invisible guards there, and there is a relationship with the hotel that exhausts a need keep something safe.
Is it truly a public pace, or is this POPS another contrived relationship referring to the nature of the space in a legal sense, as an easement, a mere right of way. I believe this courtyard is just an extension of authority, which hints to the hotels own power, it reminds itself of its identity and cherishes it like Narcissus over the reflecting pond.
Most of this plaza was closed earlier today for the “media event” portion of a Dairy Queen promotion that would be giving out free ice cream later in the day. The media portion of the event was scheduled for something like 11-5, and people from Dairy Queen were actively preventing people from entering the space. Is this allowed for a POPS? Was the owner illegally renting it out to DQ for private hours?
as of 04/29/19 there is an area cordoned off for private outdoor seating for eating and drinking for the hotel restaurant.
This place is filthy. It used to be better maintained. What happened?